The Use of Drill Music in Criminal Trials Part III - Experts and Exclusion Strategies

This podcast forms part of a 4-part series on the use of drill music in criminal trials, in which Oliver Mosley speaks with senior and junior counsel about their experiences of drill music in court.

In Part III, Oliver speaks to David Spens QC about his experience representing Daniel Lena, aka 'Unknown T', a drill music artist who was acquitted of murder last year. They discuss the use of defence experts and the various strategies to exclude drill music.

In Part IV, released next week, Oliver speaks with Fallon Alexis and Tom Broomfield about the ever-present risk of racial stereotyping with drill music evidence, and round-up recent news coverage and guidance.

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